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Participants:

Michael Schoenfeldt (English)
Denise Kirschner (Microbiology and Immunology)
Victor DiRita (Laboratory and Animal Medicine)
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Victor DiRita (Laboratory and Animal Medicine)

A great deal’s been touched on, and so I’ll try to give a slightly different perspective and that’s the perspective from the search committee’s side. Everything that’s been discussed up until now for the most part has been what it is that you ought to do and all the advice has been in some cases a little bit disparate but it’s reasonable since we’re talking about humanities versus physical sciences or mathematics or even medicine. It’s all been good advice, so I want to talk a little bit about the process from the standpoint of the search committee. 

So the issue of the cover letter has come up many times already and there was a question about it and also there was a question about whether you should apply or not apply for jobs you may select yourself out of. You’re all responding in most cases to ads, so there’s been an ad written. I was just on a committee in my department earlier this year. The whole raison d’etre of the committee was to write the ad. We spent three months coming up with the ad, and then that committee – which was not a search committee – was disbanded and now there’s a search committee that’s operating off of that ad. So, I can tell you that those ads – this is not the word of God coming to Moses, okay. This is basically an agreement; this is the lowest common denominator that we could all agree upon without killing each other of what should go in the ad.

That means there’s room for you, because if you think – you’ll read that ad and think, “Well, it sort of touches on me, but it doesn’t really say me” in terms of what you’re doing – probably if you think that you’re close, you were discussed at some level. Maybe you didn’t make the negotiation for the ad, but you should apply for jobs that you think you are qualified for even if it doesn’t specifically mention your area of research. If it’s completely outside of your sphere of research or your sphere of academic interest, then you shouldn’t waste your time and the committee's time, but if you think you’re close do not restrict yourself from applying because those ads are a compromise. They are not: “This is the person we’re looking for.” There’s a lot of gray in those things. So, when you send the cover letter you should indicate what it is about the position that attracted you to apply for the job. Obviously, at that point you want to fold in some of the things that they said in the ad with what you’re actually doing in life so it looks like you’ve given it some thought. 

So, once you’ve applied, there’s these 1200 applications, so how do people go through them? It is true that letters are very important so your CV is going to list two important things – unless it’s a job focused primarily for teaching – your CV will have two important things on it. It will have your record of academic output. In most fields, it’s papers, in some fields, it’s books, but it will have that. And it will also have your ability or your track record of having been funded – fellowships, that kind of thing – and that gives a sense of your ability to make it in the independent world. And if you’re primarily looking at teaching jobs, it will have a lot of teaching stuff on it. That’s important as well. So what the search committee is going to look at is those two things. Have you published a lot? Are you an academic? I mean, are you putting out your research and it’s been in peer reviewed journals and it’s respected, etc. So that’s a really important component of the CV. If you have a lot of things in preparation…there’s always a controversy and Michael pointed out, “Spend longer, write your dissertation, and get it out before applying.” I’m not sure I agree with that fully.

If you have a lot of things in preparation or your thesis isn’t – well, I’m speaking primarily from the postdoc standpoint, if you’re applying from the postdoctoral point, your thesis is already done. But the point is if your work hasn’t been published, but it’s close and your letters are going to support that. That’s okay, apply. Now in the humanities, in particularly in English, it sounds like that’s not the best tactic. But I think for a lot of fields – certainly in the hard sciences and in medicine, medical sciences – you can apply with a CV that says, “Manuscript in preparation,” as long as it bears out when they interview you that you’ve truly got these things in preparation. 

So, those things are going to be looked at but the letters are very critical. So, is it a good idea to have a very prominent person write a letter that doesn’t say a whole lot about you because they don’t know you that well, but it’s a prominent person or somebody who’s maybe lesser known but will write you a very good letter because they know you. I think the latter. To have a prominent person in your field – say the chair of your department, who’s well known, who knows you because you present seminars in the department on occasion or they know your thesis advisor, but who can’t write you a strong letter indicating that your work is important and that the things you plan to do, or your career, is going to make a difference, then it’s not worth having that letter just because the person is a name professor at the University of Michigan. We interviewed somebody – or we didn’t interview somebody, actually – who had a letter from a chairman at a department at Harvard, and the chair wrote a very nice pro forma letter saying, “This is a good person…,” etc. and it looked like the person was being damned with faint praise. People were wondering, “Well, what’s he saying about this guy? There’s nothing glowing in this letter.” So, do not have a letter from a big name person, just because they’re a big name person. The letter should really speak to your abilities, speak to your contributions, what you’ve done in the past and what you intend to do in the future. So, in other words, get people who know you. 

And so the search committee’s going to look at those things and probably – I don’t know the numbers, but a high percentage of the people who make it through the first cut, make it through the first cut because of those three things: what you’ve done in the past, your ability to fund yourself or to generate fellowships, etc., and what the letters say. All the other things – at least in a lot of the sciences, although we spend a lot of time thinking about them, etc. the other things that aren’t related to those three items are less well-studied by the search committees. 

So, once they come up with a general group of people that is not necessarily their short list, then they want to fight it out. And then it’s going to come down to this argument of whether you’re matching the ad or whether you’re in the pool of people that would likely contribute to the department the way they had in mind when they first started. Now, if you are excellent, and if you are really good and your letters glow, you’ve made it to that point. Even if you are not necessarily aimed exactly as the ad suggested, you’ll stay in the pool because the idea ultimately is get good people in the department. And I think all departments feel that way, that they’re after very good people, even if they’ve written an ad that’s fairly selective.

Now, if it’s a humanities department that needs somebody to teach sixteenth-century whatever and you’re a specialist on post-civil war literature, you’re not going to make the cut. But in the sciences, there’s a lot more gray area. If you’re very good – we’ve had searches where the person isn’t exactly the person we were looking for but they’re excellent and so we want them in our department. What happens in some cases is that search committees will make an appeal to the chair who will then make an appeal to the dean and say we’ve got a great pool here, can we get another slot available, and that can occur. So if you’re that person that’s very good, if you’re the person that the department is after so strongly that you’ve made them go after another slot in the department – mortgage retirement later on or something – there’s a lot of play that departments can do with the dean, depending on whether there’s resources ultimately available. 

So, ultimately you want to get to a visit. And at that point you should determine that the job is yours to lose. So, if you’re going for a visit, it’s very important to assume you can get the job. You’re confident enough that this is a job you want and that you can get it. Both previous speakers have indicated, don’t look desperate. You should look like – not like you don’t care, maybe, Dr. Kirschner’s experience notwithstanding, although it was apparently successful – you should not look like you’re desperate. I completely agree with that piece of advice. What you should look like, and Michael, I think, raised a very interesting point. He said, you’re basically being asked to join a conversation in this profession, and I think that’s a really good point. When you come there, you are no longer a postdoc, you are no longer a student, you’re a job candidate, and what that really means is that they’re looking at you to see whether you should be a faculty member. And so you should behave as if you were a faculty member. You’re there as a visiting expert to talk to them about their department, to get a sense of what’s going on in the department, so that they can get a sense of what you’re up to, what you plan to do in the future. It should be a collegial interaction. You are now a peer of those people. Even if there are senior faculty members on the search committee, you’re going to be a colleague of theirs if they so choose. So you have to behave as a peer in the field and not as a junior faculty member who knows a certain little area. 

So, from that standpoint, you need to get something of a sense of what’s going on in the department. I agree that you shouldn’t come there with a list of everybody’s publications and ask all these leading questions to show how smart you are and how much you’ve done literature searches, etc. But you should have an awareness of what’s going on in the department because those people are going to be your colleagues, and those people are going to be people who ask you to sit on their students’ dissertation committees, etc. So you should have a sense of what’s going on in the department, and it also shows you to be a broad generalist in the field of whatever that department covers. It just makes you look more like a peer if you have some sense of other things going on in the department – if you come there. 

You’ll also present a seminar or something to show what your research has been what your work has done. The reason that you’re doing that is twofold. You’re doing a seminar in the department in order for them to see what you’re up to, what your work has been, but also even if it’s at a place like the university of Michigan, where teaching is sometimes secondary and research is primary, you’re going to be teaching and so they want to see how well do you do that. You’re presenting your work to a broad audience; how well do you do. So that seminar – even though you’re looking to show what your research has been, what your output’s been, what you know as an expert in your field – it’s also being used to see how well you can teach, how well you can get your ideas across. So, you should take that seminar very, very seriously. You should practice it a lot, to your peers, to your colleagues at graduate school or your postdoc. You should not go into this seminar taking it anything other than it is: the most important seminar you’ve ever given. And remember, you are the expert, so you should feel very comfortable, and that comes from having practiced it. So, it’s incredibly important. 

Now, Dr. Kirschner raises the issue of a courtship, I think there is something to that in a job search. There’s the first visit, which is really the first date – in her terminology – where everybody’s getting the chance to feel each other out. Then if you’re lucky you’ve made it to the second visit which is very often the call-back, they want to see you again. That is often an indication that they’d like to make you an offer. And so when you come back for a second visit, then they really want to know – okay, the first visit was great, what do you look like the next day? Are you somebody that we really want to interact with now? 

That’s when they might start asking you questions like, “What do you plan to do in the next five years?” Certainly before the first visit you should have thought about this. What are you bringing to the University of Michigan, to wherever you’re going? What are you bringing with you as a career? What are you going to do for us? What are you going to contribute: you’re a colleague now, what are you bringing to our mixture of different individuals here?...So we all have to interact: collegiality means we all have to interact with each other. So, having a strong opinion about a teaching method, that should come out when you’re there, when you get a sense of what the department is all about. If it comes out in the very beginning, then that’s how you’ve chosen to define yourself. So you have to decide; that’s why it’s a judgment call. Do you want to define yourself by your teaching philosophy or by any of your philosophies until you get there and they can see that you’re going to be somebody that we want to have around? So, I think I’ll stop there, just having given a sense of the process from the standpoint of the search committee with all the other stuff that went ahead and we can turn to questions.
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